Hmm. Because I'm stupid/stubborn, I'm still using my own home-brew blogging system, for which there is not yet any support for OpenID, you understand.
I certainly think OpenID makes more sense and is easier (for nerds, at least) than any other sort of commenter authentication. But it can't and shouldn't replace the standard unauthenticated name/email/URL set that I (and you) currently have. Just saying.
Aaron B. Hockley
· 1 year ago
You're right Todd, it shouldn't replace anonymous comments. It should supplement them, as an alternative.
And my stand only applies to tech blogs (for now), whom I hold to a higher / more modern standard for implementing smart tech things.
Chris O'Rourke
· 1 year ago
I support this as well. Also I'm willing to help get any site running on OpenID based authentication as well.
Todd Stadler
· 1 year ago
I'm still a little shaky on OpenID, so this may be a dumb question, but what is the relationship between the commenter Gravatar icons and the OpenID login? How are they correlated?
Aaron B. Hockley
· 1 year ago
There is no relation between Gravatar and OpenID... Gravatar is based on the e-mail address used to comment (whether it's user-provided or OpenID-supplied). Use of OpenID and Gravatars is independent.
http://aaron.binprop.org/
· 1 year ago
+1 Hooray. My personal stand was the OpenID-enable all the web software I support; Drupal, WordPress, Moodle, MediaWiki etc. Good times.
Rick Turoczy
· 1 year ago
Bravo! Consider me the water station attendant on your OpenID marathon. Or something. My analogies are a tad fragmented as of late.
Suffice it to say, I applaud your taking this stance.
And I also wanted to take the opportunity to thank Chris O'Rourke (who also offers to help) for recently repairing the errors that had me wallowing in my own OpenID hypocrisy.
Jmartens
· 1 year ago
I don't even know how to comment using one of the many OpenID's I apparently have from services like Yahoo, etc.
Until it is fool/idiot proof, it isn't for me.
and yes, I am calling myself a fool/idiot
Rick Turoczy
· 1 year ago
@jmartens If you spent half as much time learning how to use your OpenID as you do complaining about not knowing how to use your OpenID, this conversation would be over. ;)
But in all seriousness, it can be lacking in terms of "being intuitive." I'm happy to take the time to walk you through it, if you want.
Super simple. Truly.
Aaron B. Hockley
· 1 year ago
Jmartens: Take a look at Yahoo's OpenID information which talks about how to enable using your Yahoo account for OpenID. If it's still fuzzy, I can help.
Rick Turoczy
· 1 year ago
String irony: Due to the autologin as admin, Aaron isn't using OpenID to comment. :)
Chris Messina
· 1 year ago
+1 dude. I support ya! ;)
Jacob Burke
· 1 year ago
Have the plugin up and running on my blog now. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help out.
Lia Hollander
· 1 year ago
My god, it's an OpenID love fest! Bring your happy OpenID enabled selves over to Treasurelicious.com
Thanks for the mention Aaron. We are always working to make our OpenID provider (http://myvidoop.com) easier to use. Vidoop would be totally behind starting some kind of demand OpenID campaign, grassroots, with a cool logo and some shirts? eh?
Also if you are a myVidoop affiliate you can create your own ID Selector from within our site.
Actions may speak louder than words, but both together is loudest...
Scott Muc
· 1 year ago
I definitely support this!
Mr David Christiansen
· 1 year ago
I Support that!
Ramiro Berrelleza
· 1 year ago
Totally behind this! What is the stand of Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Yahoo, etc... regarding this?
Adron
· 1 year ago
Ditto.
Ramiro - Microsoft has their own ID, but as Hanselman points out on his blog there is an open source .NET implementation out now. Google also has their own ID system so I'm not sure what they want to do about Open ID. Amazon and Yahoo have pieces out there already, you'll have to do a search and check it out...
Tom Offermann
· 1 year ago
Vidoop should be giving you some sort of a kickback! I just opened a MyVidoop account (thanks to your advocacy), and here's my first OpenID-enabled comment.
I am trying to see if this OpenID thing works...because I set it up the way LJ suggested and I haven't been able to use it to comment on blogspot. If it works here but not on Blogspot then I'll know where the problem is.
http://2idi.com/contact/=alex.
· 1 year ago
I've been thinking about doing this for a while as well. I've got an i-name (I know, I know...) which also doubles as an OpenID but I never seem to remember to use it. Now if only I could work out how to get my i-name to go back to my blog ... Anyway, +1 from me!
vmlemon
· 1 year ago
I've got OpenID working on at least one of my Drupal sites, if it counts for anything...
vmlemon
· 1 year ago
Hmm, anyone else think that with so many people having OpenIDs from different providers, and OpenID aggregator would be a good idea?
ahockley
· 1 year ago
Why would you need aggregation? Just because one has many potential OpenIDs, it doesn't mean that all of them need to be used. Best practice would be to delegate a secure OpenID to a personal URL (I use Vidoop, delegated to <a href="http://www.aaronhockley.com) " target="_blank">www.aaronhockley.com) for their OpenID, but even without a custom URL one should shoose a relatively permanent provider and use that as their identity.
ahockley
· 1 year ago
Excellent. The wider the OpenID support, the better.
Daverix
· 1 year ago
What about spam? You can make your own openid-provider and just throw out openids that bots can use to spam sites using only openid. You have to have captcha or email verification to get rid of spam. Also why does this comment system rely on that you are using the sreg extension of openid? :P
ahockley
· 1 year ago
OpenID doesn't have anything to do with spam. I moderate first-time OpenID commenters in the same fashion which I moderate any new commenter... so an OpenID-bot wouldn't be treated any differently than an anonymous bot.
Daverix
· 1 year ago
Well I didn't know that it was moderated. The comment system seems to not be yours so I maybe can't ask you about why I can't input my name and website when posting with OpenID either?
Caloca
· 7 months ago
lolz, open ids are great, but it will drive the less tech savvy away from commenting on your blog.
Aaron B. Hockley
· 7 months ago
I didn't ask that folks require OpenID... only that it be offered as an option.
Wesley Tanaka
· 5 months ago
Does this blog support OpenID comments?
Aaron B. Hockley
· 5 months ago
Yes, I have OpenID support for comments. If you're having issues with it let me know either via a comment or an email (aaron at hockley dot org)
All Comments
I certainly think OpenID makes more sense and is easier (for nerds, at least) than any other sort of commenter authentication. But it can't and shouldn't replace the standard unauthenticated name/email/URL set that I (and you) currently have. Just saying.
And my stand only applies to tech blogs (for now), whom I hold to a higher / more modern standard for implementing smart tech things.
Suffice it to say, I applaud your taking this stance.
And I also wanted to take the opportunity to thank Chris O'Rourke (who also offers to help) for recently repairing the errors that had me wallowing in my own OpenID hypocrisy.
Until it is fool/idiot proof, it isn't for me.
and yes, I am calling myself a fool/idiot
But in all seriousness, it can be lacking in terms of "being intuitive." I'm happy to take the time to walk you through it, if you want.
Super simple. Truly.
Where it's all OpenID enabled ALL THE TIME!
:)
Also if you are a myVidoop affiliate you can create your own ID Selector from within our site.
Actions may speak louder than words, but both together is loudest...
Ramiro - Microsoft has their own ID, but as Hanselman points out on his blog there is an open source .NET implementation out now. Google also has their own ID system so I'm not sure what they want to do about Open ID. Amazon and Yahoo have pieces out there already, you'll have to do a search and check it out...